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August 2, 2016
Mobile phone usage in chemical plants
I am reproducing a good discussion in a process safety forum in Linkedin (Process safety management) here:
David MooreAllowing
mobile phone use in a control room is not an area classification issue.
Control rooms are typically located within a NEC classified area but
the interior of the control room is not classified - i.e. it's
unclassified. Control rooms are kept unclassified by means of a
ventilation system keeping the control room environment at a pressure
higher than the outside atmosphere. This pressurized system keeps
outside toxic or explosive vapors from leaking into the control room.
Since the control room is unclassified then any general purpose
electrical device is allowed in the control room. As a matter of fact,
it would be impossible to have all the electronics that are necessary to
be in the control room be intrinsically safe or explosion proof. This
is why control rooms are unclassified.
Karl-Fred WoernerI
agree with David. One reason not to allow mobile phones in control
room is potential distraction. We do not allow privat mobile phones in
control rooms. Before allowing mobile phones in a blast resistant
building you should also check connectivity because the steel used in
the construction migth might function as a shield.
Richard PalluziStandard
cell phones are not approved for electrically classified areas. Yet
many studies have indicated that the chance of ignition is very low.
Most petrochemical organizations will not allow them; I suspect more
from a liability issue than a technical issue. It would be great to have
an AICHE, ISA, API, ASSE, or NFPA study of the real technical risks.
Sadly it's unlikely to happen as testing is very expensive and with the
large number of different types doing any meaningful testing is probably
problematical at best. In addition to the potential ignition source
issues, the question of distractions always arises. Yet, at the same
time, most organizations have so integrated cell phone use into their
daily business that lack of access is a definite reduction in
efficiency. The impossible (or at least very difficult) issue to address
is how to allow normal company business while excluding needless
distractions. Most organizations have some restrictions in place at
least on paper.
Luis Eduardo Pardo DiazGreetings, there are several reasons why cell phone use in control rooms is prohibited, among the most outstanding are: 1.
distracter for operations: can you imagine an operator control panel
working and talking on the phone at the same time? ¿Differentiating
between sounds alarm signals and tones phone? Simply because of the
sensitivity of the operations control room, should minimize the factors
which could cause distraction operators control panel. This is the main
reason for the restriction. 2. Possibly the emission of signals or
other cellular radios, instruments may alter operating wirelessly, which
generate false signals and the problems that we know that these can
generate. 3. The cell phone is not a certified electronic equipment
for hazardous areas and remember that by the characteristics of the
control room, they can be exposed to flammable gases and vapors, and
cell element could be the initiator of an explosion or fire. Happy day.
Daniel LewisIn
the classified area - Agreed, standard personal mobile phones are not
rated and therefore present a risk of fire, even if this risk is low. In
unrated control rooms or break rooms - There are numerous other unrated
electrical devices in these rooms, so they do not create an increased
ignition risk. It is a management issue to make sure employees are not
using them excessively, and that they do not carry them outside into the
classified area.
Jeremy RolandMy
question would by why do they want to have cell phones in those areas?
Typically the floor employees have no need for a phone to conduct their
tasks. Often times they will never even question these policies.
Managers on the other hand seem to be unable, or unwilling to put their
phones down. They often question these policies because they feel that
they need to have their phone on them at all times. My question to them
would be what is more important not missing an email, text, or call or
not blowing themselves and everyone else up. . Even if the chances are a
million to one that it could happen i would not want to risk being that
one.
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Mobile Phone usage in restricted area inside control building
Shankar Bhosale
Saudi Aramco Total Refinery and Petrochemical Company
http://www.exponent.com/files/Uploads/Documents/CellPhoneReport.pdf
Also, you can find a very good explanation of minimum ignition energy (MIE) in the CCPS text "Guidelines for Determining the Probability of Ignition of a Released Flammable Mass". Although in this case it was generally agreed that cell phones present an extremely low risk as an ignition source, the company decided it was not worth the risk and upheld the rule to ban cell phone use in the plant.
In addition to the potential ignition source issues, the question of distractions always arises. Yet, at the same time, most organizations have so integrated cell phone use into their daily business that lack of access is a definite reduction in efficiency. The impossible (or at least very difficult) issue to address is how to allow normal company business while excluding needless distractions. Most organizations have some restrictions in place at least on paper.
1. distracter for operations: can you imagine an operator control panel working and talking on the phone at the same time? ¿Differentiating between sounds alarm signals and tones phone?
Simply because of the sensitivity of the operations control room, should minimize the factors which could cause distraction operators control panel. This is the main reason for the restriction.
2. Possibly the emission of signals or other cellular radios, instruments may alter operating wirelessly, which generate false signals and the problems that we know that these can generate.
3. The cell phone is not a certified electronic equipment for hazardous areas and remember that by the characteristics of the control room, they can be exposed to flammable gases and vapors, and cell element could be the initiator of an explosion or fire.
Happy day.
In unrated control rooms or break rooms - There are numerous other unrated electrical devices in these rooms, so they do not create an increased ignition risk. It is a management issue to make sure employees are not using them excessively, and that they do not carry them outside into the classified area.